Episode 5: When the Church Is Shaken: Grace, Accountability, and Trust

In Episode 5 of Countertop Theology, we step away from Hebrews 6 for a moment to talk about something many people are feeling right now—a deep shaking in the church.

Recent revelations involving well-known leaders and churches have stirred frustration, grief, confusion, and distrust, especially among younger generations. In this honest, unscripted conversation, we talk through what’s happening, why it’s happening, and how followers of Jesus can respond without losing their faith, their tenderness, or their love for the church.

We discuss:

Why judgment begins with the house of God (1 Peter 4:17)

Accountability vs. restoration—and why both matter

Why apologies don’t automatically restore trust

The danger of bitterness, deconstruction, and “throwing stones”

How broken systems, not just broken people, contribute to failure

What younger generations are longing for: authenticity, integrity, and consistency

Why Jesus—not leaders, movements, or platforms—must remain our foundation

This episode isn’t about canceling leaders or defending institutions. It’s about asking better questions, protecting our hearts, and staying faithful to Jesus in the middle of disappointment and change.

If you’ve felt unsettled, angry, confused, or tempted to walk away—this conversation is for you.