Welcome back to our countertop conversations. In this episode, Josh and his dad, David Ellis, pick up where they left off—walking through the foundational principles of Hebrews 6. They start with the first cornerstone: repentance from dead works.
This isn’t a “gotcha” episode. It’s a father–son conversation about real life—how we can love Jesus, mean well, and still pour energy into things that aren’t producing fruit. They talk about how dead works can look like idols in the ancient world… and how they can look like burnout, misplaced priorities, or identity wrapped up in the wrong thing today.
Along the way, they discuss:
Why foundations matter (and why bigger “buildings” require deeper foundations)
How to recognize when something is no longer producing fruit
The difference between “good” and “God’s best”
The danger of chasing new teachings without staying anchored in Scripture
Why repentance often means a simple (but costly) shift: changing your mind
